Jayna,
I'm happy to help with this (you'd be helping me?).
For a long time now I've been preparing to go live in the forest--
I'm basically all ready. Nothing's in the way except where to go and what to do.
I've been looking to the uber-hikers of the pacific crest trail for guidance. But never really shared the drive they have to hike 30 miles per day, day after day. Nor to have a goal of walking a particular trail from one end to the other.
I've never been so keen on staying in SD (noise and bright lights affect many otherwise ok camping spots), but there are plenty of places to camp here (and I've camped out perhaps 13 days in the city over the past 5 years alone and with others). There are encampments along the various rivers that are reported on in the paper occasionally.
Well, let me know what your thoughts are. Currently I'm "trapped" by having a free and relatively discomfort-free place to live, but very soon (this evening?) I'll be walking away. If I don't respond to messages on the list, email me directly.
I've considered many places to go-- but get stuck on that. And for some reason there are no Amtrak tickets north until the weekend (at least online).
So, one possibility I've come up with is just to walk for three hours in the morning and three in the evening and go where ever seems best each day.
Giving myself that freedom, I find I feel like heading to Mexico now rather than waiting till the winter.
I just logged on to see if I can find a mexican mobile service to send/receive text messages.
Yet another way to procrastinate. We just need to walk out the door.
You don't even need a sleeping bag or a tent to sleep outside right now--just something the mosquitos can't bite through.
We can start walking and follow that weather south. (If you don't have a passport you perhaps could walk through the gaps in the fence at the beach if they haven't been narrowed yet).
Now a problem with being totally free is that one is disembedded from many cultural and behavioral requirements / ecosystems--.
One can do anything (except what might lead to confinement (any commitment)), so what does one do?
And when one considers any course of action it is very nearly always a well-channeled path or a slight modification of one already traveled. For example, hiking the PCT.
I don't really know what freedom might be.
Slightly more creative perhaps is going to live in Los Padres National Forest. There aren't guidebooks for that. Perhaps even more creative is just walking three hours/day in morning and evening wherever that leads.
Well, as briefly contented and excited as I/my mind was to hear your inquiry and to respond, I know actually interacting in person won't be as simple.
Doing so, in fact, is the beginning of a confining of freedom. We might arrange to meet at a particular place or time. And then have to get ourselves there!
And then do we cooperate? And there will be compromises. Two+ people can't just walk 3 hours each day morning and evening and stay together unless they agree on which way to walk.
Even so, many suggest that in our commitment to each other is a root of our development in life--for example @ Deer Park Monastery:
Jayna, so perhaps encourage me to finally walk out the door. Give me a place and a time, and on the way to ?? Mexico? I'll stop by. If you can't make it--and don't show--no problem. You'll have helped me out the door.
For some background on my attempt to walk out the door and my multitude of means of procrastinating:
http://fo-rest.blogspot.com/
and
http://purl.org/net/cfu/Members/colin/walkingsangha/ (If I ever get established out there, perhaps I'll be inviting others along!)
I could be leaving for Sequoia National Forest but may not because it costs $50 and mechanized travel to get there. And I'm not sure I want the bears and the cold and various regulations to sweat about (Though I doubt I would really need to worry about these things, as long as I'm careful).
So maybe then, Los Padres NF-- but again, mechanized travel.
So I'll walk out the door, and find a spot for the night in a canyon on the way south or on the way to the ferry to Coronado for the night.
Or I could head out through Mission Trails park and make my way to Mt Laguna, where I've been before.
I am happy there are many people working constructively--on permaculture farms and gov't policy--
For those not interested in going out and living in a tent (or tentless), below I've pasted a link to a text of possible interest, _The Politics of Simple Living_.
It should be clear that one reason I'm slowly headed to a sort of wandering monk / hobo existence is that I just don't know how to deal with the millions of options (and have not found any narrowing pleasure in any particular option, except walking, sitting), so I've been lowering and lowering my sights/my aim. Just walk, three hours in the morning, three in the morning (or something like that) let everything else follow. Maybe.
Whatever it is, it can't require too much of me, because so far, I'm not that motivated in any particular way. Or I'd have gone that way already.
I know I'm monastery fodder: should just sit, and otherwise accept orders, and enjoy the peace, commitment, community, discomfort, and challenge that comes with that, but that requires getting to a monastery, following their regulations.
For those who follow my blog, you can see why I have not posted recently. My mind needs no excuse to babble like this and avoid focus and action on walking out the door.
Peace,
Colin
While I'm posting, an Internet friend wanted help publicizing his free text:
--- In SDIshmael at yahoogroups.com, "mychloe24" <mychloe24@...> wrote:
>
> Hello, My name is Jayna and I just joined this group. Ishmael was an
> amazing book as well as My Ishmael. I am less and less tolerant of the
> way in which we are imprisoned every day. I would like to find a place
> where people can live in tents here in San Diego. This would be the
> ideal place to do it. A camping community that helps each other out
> and goes against the grain. If anyone else has any other ideas or
> knows how to make my idea happen please do tell. It is going to take a
> revolution to enact world change and it needs to start with us.
>
Let's do it!! Let's get started! I can still walk three hours in the morning and evening and camp in the same spot, at least for a while.
I'm happy to help with this (you'd be helping me?).
For a long time now I've been preparing to go live in the forest--
I'm basically all ready. Nothing's in the way except where to go and what to do.
I've been looking to the uber-hikers of the pacific crest trail for guidance. But never really shared the drive they have to hike 30 miles per day, day after day. Nor to have a goal of walking a particular trail from one end to the other.
I've never been so keen on staying in SD (noise and bright lights affect many otherwise ok camping spots), but there are plenty of places to camp here (and I've camped out perhaps 13 days in the city over the past 5 years alone and with others). There are encampments along the various rivers that are reported on in the paper occasionally.
Well, let me know what your thoughts are. Currently I'm "trapped" by having a free and relatively discomfort-free place to live, but very soon (this evening?) I'll be walking away. If I don't respond to messages on the list, email me directly.
I've considered many places to go-- but get stuck on that. And for some reason there are no Amtrak tickets north until the weekend (at least online).
So, one possibility I've come up with is just to walk for three hours in the morning and three in the evening and go where ever seems best each day.
Giving myself that freedom, I find I feel like heading to Mexico now rather than waiting till the winter.
I just logged on to see if I can find a mexican mobile service to send/receive text messages.
Yet another way to procrastinate. We just need to walk out the door.
You don't even need a sleeping bag or a tent to sleep outside right now--just something the mosquitos can't bite through.
We can start walking and follow that weather south. (If you don't have a passport you perhaps could walk through the gaps in the fence at the beach if they haven't been narrowed yet).
Now a problem with being totally free is that one is disembedded from many cultural and behavioral requirements / ecosystems--.
One can do anything (except what might lead to confinement (any commitment)), so what does one do?
And when one considers any course of action it is very nearly always a well-channeled path or a slight modification of one already traveled. For example, hiking the PCT.
I don't really know what freedom might be.
Slightly more creative perhaps is going to live in Los Padres National Forest. There aren't guidebooks for that. Perhaps even more creative is just walking three hours/day in morning and evening wherever that leads.
Well, as briefly contented and excited as I/my mind was to hear your inquiry and to respond, I know actually interacting in person won't be as simple.
Doing so, in fact, is the beginning of a confining of freedom. We might arrange to meet at a particular place or time. And then have to get ourselves there!
And then do we cooperate? And there will be compromises. Two+ people can't just walk 3 hours each day morning and evening and stay together unless they agree on which way to walk.
Even so, many suggest that in our commitment to each other is a root of our development in life--for example @ Deer Park Monastery:
We have come to practice together as a community. We do not encourage isolated practices or solo retreats. We are part of a body--the Sangha body, the community. Our practice is that of inter-being. Our joy and our sorrow contribute to the collective joy and sorrow of the community. Our transformation and realization on the path can nourish us all. The community can also be of great support if our heart is open. Our insight and development must be realized in the community. There is no individual, separated happiness.
Jayna, so perhaps encourage me to finally walk out the door. Give me a place and a time, and on the way to ?? Mexico? I'll stop by. If you can't make it--and don't show--no problem. You'll have helped me out the door.
For some background on my attempt to walk out the door and my multitude of means of procrastinating:
http://fo-rest.blogspot.com/
and
http://purl.org/net/cfu/Members/colin/walkingsangha/ (If I ever get established out there, perhaps I'll be inviting others along!)
I could be leaving for Sequoia National Forest but may not because it costs $50 and mechanized travel to get there. And I'm not sure I want the bears and the cold and various regulations to sweat about (Though I doubt I would really need to worry about these things, as long as I'm careful).
So maybe then, Los Padres NF-- but again, mechanized travel.
So I'll walk out the door, and find a spot for the night in a canyon on the way south or on the way to the ferry to Coronado for the night.
Or I could head out through Mission Trails park and make my way to Mt Laguna, where I've been before.
I am happy there are many people working constructively--on permaculture farms and gov't policy--
For those not interested in going out and living in a tent (or tentless), below I've pasted a link to a text of possible interest, _The Politics of Simple Living_.
It should be clear that one reason I'm slowly headed to a sort of wandering monk / hobo existence is that I just don't know how to deal with the millions of options (and have not found any narrowing pleasure in any particular option, except walking, sitting), so I've been lowering and lowering my sights/my aim. Just walk, three hours in the morning, three in the morning (or something like that) let everything else follow. Maybe.
Whatever it is, it can't require too much of me, because so far, I'm not that motivated in any particular way. Or I'd have gone that way already.
I know I'm monastery fodder: should just sit, and otherwise accept orders, and enjoy the peace, commitment, community, discomfort, and challenge that comes with that, but that requires getting to a monastery, following their regulations.
For those who follow my blog, you can see why I have not posted recently. My mind needs no excuse to babble like this and avoid focus and action on walking out the door.
Peace,
Colin
While I'm posting, an Internet friend wanted help publicizing his free text:
_The Politics of Simple Living_
This short book describes political policies that give people the choice of downshifting economically, so they have more time for their families and their own interests. This sort of policy is a key to sustainability, but the environmental movement has ignored the issue of consumption.
You can read the book at <http://www.preservenet.com/simpleliving>.
This short book describes political policies that give people the choice of downshifting economically, so they have more time for their families and their own interests. This sort of policy is a key to sustainability, but the environmental movement has ignored the issue of consumption.
You can read the book at <http://www.preservenet.com/simpleliving>.
--- In SDIshmael at yahoogroups.com, "mychloe24" <mychloe24@...> wrote:
>
> Hello, My name is Jayna and I just joined this group. Ishmael was an
> amazing book as well as My Ishmael. I am less and less tolerant of the
> way in which we are imprisoned every day. I would like to find a place
> where people can live in tents here in San Diego. This would be the
> ideal place to do it. A camping community that helps each other out
> and goes against the grain. If anyone else has any other ideas or
> knows how to make my idea happen please do tell. It is going to take a
> revolution to enact world change and it needs to start with us.
>
Let's do it!! Let's get started! I can still walk three hours in the morning and evening and camp in the same spot, at least for a while.
1 comment:
Colin,
Hey dude, it sounds like you are almost ready to walk into the wild. I like what you are doing and I am with you mentally but I just dont have the skills to rewild... also, there is the factor of income. How do you pay for all the "stuff" in your life... Rent? Transport? Gear? Computer gadgets for the bush? Food?
In other news, I heard California banned trans fats the other day. Too bad it wont take place until 2010 I think. We eat such crappy food in the US, too much meat, not enough veggies... too much sugar... I live a bit rural in Kenya right now and I find it so much easier to eat nice veggy dishes than I did in the US.
Keep in touch...
Alan
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